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2020/09/27 03:35, Draz:   
A lot of MUME is driven by getting the best equipment, everyone loves it, it's so satisfying to get and is brutal to lose.

In general I think one of the best concepts that could improve MUME is that rewards should scale with risks.

I realize not everyone is interested in PK but think about the first time you started going into Moria, or even your first trip to Rdell. PK'ers are a part of the risk that I think makes MUME great. There so many tools available to make taking risks safer if you prepare invest resources towards it like portal, rocks, locate/scry, etc I think getting the best equipment should involve risk or lots of prep to be safe (and use up more of these resources like rocks).

I think this would have the side benefit of getting more players interested in learning dangerous smobs / areas so they could catch others.

Elite eq that's too low risk:
-GH, BM, Bree legend equipment like ruby ring, fine grey, blue crystal, emb, stips
-Gleaming under LB fort
-BRD on sage
-We could make more variations on current best items anti-evil / anti-good and have them load near enemy homes (wight lord for dark, scaly for white would be good examples)

More notifications:
-The guardian 'door bell' in NOC is one of the best elements in the game, it creates so much action and risk reward for getting your PBS
-Have Sage / E Priest / magically call dark allies when enemies enter OOC
-Have Blood Wight (and others) screech that can be heard from rdell / NOC when attacked

Move some load spots around:
-Moria is perfection, you can 100% be locked in for pk, move powerful staples like Bejewelled / Ruby Ring / No Tracks / Fine Grey / Topaz
-Give pukes a reason to go to Warrens like they go to NOC for PBS
-For foci crystals, let's give weak willed pukes a reason to go east, load on something like scaly, Eblees
-Take gleaming out of LBF
-Old Wight / Necro are also great spots for a good loads (risky both sides, trappable keys, etc.)

Changing safe spots:
-Gates, call to open and seek Rdell mechanics need a longer delay if you have PK noquit and never be opened/entered with an enemy in the room or nearby with watch tower (think how much more fun Slag would be as a puke)
-Adjust more of the safe spots to be 'iffy' like Ohurk, hillside (key is rentable) and less like archway
-Change walk in safe spots to be more delayed / less safe like Rohan, Brolg, Lorien, Vale village, Khuzur, etc.

2020/09/27 08:52, Roadkill: 
Or, in other words, make MUME even more totally dominated by permatrapping, permagrouping powerchars?

No thanks.

2020/09/27 10:18, Dawnborn:   
-Give pukes a reason to go to Warrens like they go to NOC for PBS

The ragged hobbit quest is mildly amusing the first time you do it. Oddly safe too, and the reward is about the same as the risk. Meh.

It is odd though given how much trolls hoard shit, that there isn't something in the Warrens worth fighting to get to.

2020/09/27 16:35, Ena:   
SQT has some decent loot. But when I play there are never any hobbits on to loot, so no point going there.

2020/09/27 17:16, Ares: 
Less elite eq not more, just make it viable to fight in 'standard' equipment. But this has been suggested about 1000+1 times and there have been no changes towards that road, instead more and more powerful eq is made.

2020/09/27 18:09, Draz:   
@Roadkill, what if you tweaked some of the smobs to be easier to clear with smaller group in exchange for the notifications / increased danger from PK?

For example, make blood wight more stabbable or change his muddle so it's possible to keep him outside his room with time (he'll periodically fly out even when low).

Then they would be more available to the average player and be more dangerous for the power group.

2020/09/27 21:24, Svarten:   
You can make wealthy trolls into the equivalent of roaming smobs, that might drop equipment such as weapons, trinkets, full shining and staves that they looted from pukes or other smobs they came across. That way pukes won't avoid them all the time. I gave an example how to build a mechanism that guides players of both sides into playing like that in the other thread. Basically the idea was a troll would need to kill pukes, loot them and hoard their equipment at all times, else he loses his mojo and becomes very very weak. If the pukes catch the eq-laden troll, they can loot his hoard, or else he might rent and they'd have to kill Grinder for a perhaps slightly lower chance to collect it.

2020/09/28 15:07, Nazgum: 
I personally like all of these ideas =)

2020/12/23 20:46, Uroth: 
I'm not experienced enough with the game to comment on any of the points you made. So what I'm going to go on about might be irrelevant to your thread.

I would like to say that I want to get into PK someday. I've never done PK and when I used to play I only played on the good side and just trying to level and learn the game.

I was always afraid of any time I saw an *orc* etc that I just fled and hoped that they didn't kill me (they always did).

I was always afraid of losing XP/levels, but at the time I didn't realize it was different than dying to a mob.

Now I'm playing on the other side a little and I'm quite enjoying seeing the PK going on though I can't really participate other than supplying draughts and weapons/armor for the war effort.

So I've been encouraged to PK :)


2020/12/23 21:00, Fieldy:   
Sweet :D
MUME PK is the weirdest adrenaline rush :D

2020/12/24 01:34, Ena:   
The blue crystal sounds like something a dragon would hoard and guard. But maybe thatís making it to hard to get. Would probably increase some pk though.

I like how the new zones have some new decent items.

2020/12/24 02:10, IminyŽ:edited 2x   
corberyls come out from LBF and a better belt can be obtained in Emyn
@uroth: cha col enemy bold red

2021/01/06 17:33, Uroth: 
@IminyŽ I have no idea where I was asking for that advice, but thanks I guess?

2021/01/07 13:12, Tapio:   
I think it would be fun if Bree and Fornost were raided more often and if hardened defence was a bit slower or nerfed a bit. More activity around Bree and Fornost and make it worthwhile for small orc groups to roam Road To Fornost would be fun.

2021/01/07 15:10, Carl: 
These areas are meant to be for newbies who just left the safety of grey havens to exp. It should not be easier to kill them.

2021/01/07 16:35, Belamir: 
By the same token, the only people spending much time in the zones Bree - Fornost are going to be lowbies. Hard to see that request as anything other than 'I want to hunt lowbies,' and hard to see that as something that would encourage 'real' PK.

2021/01/07 16:59, Tapio:   
Well, I had a stint of Mume in the late nineties. And my sessions usually ended with something like 'Mochumurka/Labero the black numenorean fades into existance and utters 'gzprr', you are enveloped in flames, you die, sorry' :p
I thought it was exciting. You know, most of us are never gonna be top warlords, our little triumphs are to SURVIVE the attacks of said warlords :p

2021/01/07 17:51, Draz:   
@Tapio I've been ensuring our Bree friends in the west have a healthy dose of that :)

I just think that some of the best 'PK' in mume is the organic finding someone taking a risk, jumping them (in addition to back trapping them like one of the latest Brolg fight logs). The 1on1 two people sort of 'agreeing' to fight can be ok but kind of not for everyone, usually it's just someone taking an unnecessary risk in the name of action/fun.

Similarly, on the smobber side. Having to take real risks to get your EQ makes it so much more meaningful. Doing scaly for the 90th time isn't interesting but doing scaly knowing anyone near rdell would get notified? WAY more interesting!

Have to consider timing, who is on, how experienced your followers are if charged, you could even setup backtraps. That makes gleamings/beje/coppers more valuable because they had to be earned rather than just randomly getting it when there's enough nukers willing to help.

2021/01/16 20:00, IminyŽ: 
bull shit. 'Bree friends' - not any more
bull shit anything in draz's ''
bull shit Doing scaly for the 90th. I have made 255 willows quickly v138, 63%, the scaly beast and we have fancy fell beast in Emyn
bull shit moar valuabarae
bull shit


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